Généalogie and Heritage

Baron of Oxenburgh RALPH de Limésy (alias de Limesi) CU01

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Autres noms

Autres noms Nom
Nom de scène Ralph de Limesy
Nom de scène Baron Ralph de Limesi

Parents

Père Date de naissance Mère Date de naissance
HUGO de Toesni CU01 about 1001 CHRISTINE Conteville (de Toesni) about 1000

Événements personnels

Type d’événement Date Lieu Description
Naissance about 1040 Limésy, Seine-Maritime, Normandy, France
Mariage about 1062 England
Décès after 1093 Hertford, Hertfordshire, England, United Kingdom

Notes

Ralph de Limesy (alias de Limesi) lord of the manor of Limésy in Normandy (now a commune in the Seine-Maritime department in the Normandy region in northern France) was a Domesday Book Anglo-Norman magnate and tenant-in-chief of King William the Conqueror. According to Camden: "At the time of the General Survey made by King William the Conqueror, Ralph de Limesi had great possessions in this Realm; viz. in Devonshire four lordships, in Somersetshire seven, in Essex three, in Norfolk two, in Suffolk eleven, in Northamptonshire one, in Warwickshire one, in Hertfordshire four, and in Notinghamshire eight".
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CU01 follows the direct male Cushing line. Dates before 1500 are usually approximate as births and deaths were often not registered only names of children. I have used Wills, graves, encyclopaedia references, books and web sources such as Wikipedia and have only recorded on this tree plausible dates, the web is unfortunately full of impossible records!
Ralf de Limesi was born in Alost about 1040 AD. He had a small Norman manor in Limesi, on the north side of the Seine valley. He was the Chamberlain, to the Flemish Court. Ralph de Limesi left a son, Alan, in Warwickshire and heirs of unknown name in Limesi. Ralph de Limesi (or Ralph de Ghent or Ralph de Lindsay) came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 AD. He received Domesday estates in Somerset, Devonshire, Hertfordshire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire (his most important holdings), Nottinghamshire, Essex, Norfolk and Bedingfield, Suffolk as tenant in chief. Ralph's coat of arms was gules, an eagle displayed or. Ralph de Limesi and his wife, Hawisa, founded Hertford Priory and they were generous benefactors to the Priory thereafter. Ralph died in mid-1090's in the monastery of St. Albans…. Knights such as Ralph de Limesi had probably received their lands from the Montforts at the time of Gilbert and Alice's marriage as part of the general reconciliation.
"It is probable that the de Limesi's were close kin of [William] the Conqueror. The monks of Hertford Priory reportedly said so, and why would they if it were not so? …Apart from the testimony of the monks…what cannot speak cannot lie. Whilst William rewarded his most noble followers with land and prestige on an enormous scale, those of untitled rank expected smaller portions of his new kingdom. Not so [with] the Limesi's: manors allotted to Ralph and Robert [de Limesi] were numerous and in many counties. This was not only generosity, they were in those places to represent, defend and support all that he wanted and all that he stood for. If they were not deeply committed to him by kinship and political belief they would be in some quiet corner and happy to be so…for they had to be capable of commanding loyalty from soldiery and to build trust amongst the unhappy Saxon and Angles and Brits already here, for they would still work their land but not to their own advantage."
RADULFUS or RALPH DE LIMESI, born about 1040, of Normandy, France:
"Radulfus or Ralph de Limesi, son of Hugo de Limesi (1); b. about 1040 in Normandy; he was also called Radulfus de Limesi in 1086. He came with the Conqueror into England and fought at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. …Whether he m[arried] 1st or 2d, Maria daughter of William Fitz Osborn, Earl of Hereford, and sister of Roger, Earl of Hereford, or C[h]ristina, sister of Prince Edgar Athleing, cannot be exactly determined. The probabilities are that he married both, Maria being his first wife."
"The Princess Christina was born in Hungary, and after the battle of Hastings went with her family into Scotland in 1068-69, when her sister Margaret married [King] Malcolm [of Scotland], she was then in all probability not a nun, and certainly not the wife of Ralph de Limesi. But Christina was back again in England and held land in the Domesday Survey in 1086, from which it can be argued that she was not a nun at that time, so that she could be the second wife of Ralph de Limesi who exercised control over her real estate by making gifts of a portion of it to the Priory of Hertford between 1087-1093. Ralph de Limesi had for arms: Gules, three eagles displayed, or; which was very unusual for so early a period, except for members of royalty. The charters by Ralph de Limesi and his descendants to the Priory of Hertford indicate the authentic genealogy of his family in England, and are interesting relics of the customs of their times."
"His [Hugo de Limesi] son Ralph [de Limesi] was certainly of full age when he fought at Hastings, and also of sufficient age to be one of the leading knights under King William, the twenty six years of age assigned to Ralph in 1066 seem proper to account for the circumstances surrounding him at that time; no record exists of his marriage in Normandy, or that he had any issue in that country." His descendants can now be linked up with the following dates: his son and heir Ralph [de Limesi 2] who married Hawisia could be born about 1067, his grandson Alan born about 1095, and his great-grandson Gerard born 1120-1125, which last date is about right when compared with the age of said Gerard's wife Amicia, who was born 1125. The interval of twenty-eight years, or even as much as thirty, would be none too large for a line of exclusive male succession, when the possibility of the existence of elder deceased sons, or the births of daughters, is taken under consideration."
"Hawisia [was the] wife of a second Ralph de Limesi, the father of Alan and Raer…." (See page 200).

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The Linzee family of Great Britain and the United States of America and the allied families of Penfold, Hood, Amory, Tilden, Hunt, Browne, Wooldridge [and] Evans : Linzee, John William, b. 1867 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive