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Guillaume (Wiliam) de la Ferté-Macé Massey, Viscount Bellame, Count of Ferté-Macé MP Gender: Male Birth: circa 1035 La Ferte Mace, Orne, Normandy, France Death: after 1076 Dunham Massey, Cheshire, England Immediate Family: Son of Guillaume II "Talvas" de Bellême, seigneur d'Alençon and Haberga "Hildeburge" de Beaumont Husband of Muriel de Conteville Father of Margaret de Praers (de Dewhall); Hamon de Mascy, 1st Baron of Dunham Massey; Mathieu de la Ferté-Macé; William de la Ferté-Macé, Baron of la Ferte-Mace; Robert de Massey and 2 others Brother of Mabile, dame de Bellême et d'Alençon; Arnoul de Bellême and Adela de Belleme Half brother of Olivier de Mesle Added by: James Frederick Pultz on November 23, 2007 Managed by: Jackie "Wayne" Roberts Jr. and 42 others Curated by: Anne M Berge http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a31.htm ID: I104303 Name: Count William ]<^>v] de Ferte-Mace Sex: M Birth: BET 1026 AND 1042 in Ferté-Mace, Aisne, Franc Death: in aka De la Massey Marriage 1 Muriel [@ <^>v] de Conteville b: 1030 in Normandie, France * Married: ABT 1051 in Normandie, France Children 1. Has Children Hamon [I @<^>] de Massey b: 1076 2. Has Children Margaret de [@ <^>v] la Ferte b: ABT 1059 in Falaise, Normandy, France source: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=gilead07&id=I253485 William came from Normandy with the Invasion of William the Conqueror, to England in 1066. (http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a31.htm#i3139) http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a31.htm#i3139 http://www.ffish.com/family_tree/Descendants_William_de_la_Ferte_Mace/D1.htm Birth Notes: May have been born in Normandy. Death Notes: May have died at the Battle of Hastings. Research Notes: Fought in Battle of Hastings with wife's half brother, William the conqueror, his brothers-in-law, and his sons. Some sources list his sons as Hamon de Massey I, Robert de Massey and William de la Ferte Massey. Others list two legitimate sons, Baron Mathieu de la Ferte Mace and Hugue de Macey, plus Hamon as an illegitimate son." William de La Ferté Macé (c. 1034-aft 1085) Born: La Ferté Macé, Normandy(Fort Mace)now in Alençon,Orne,France Living: 1085 Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England (in the Domesday book) Married: Miss de Conteville and/or Muriel de Conteville. Daughter of Harluin/Harlevin/Harlowen de Conteville and Harlette/Arlette de Falaise - the father-in-law and mother of William the Conqueror. --- Children: Mathieu de La Ferté Macé - Fought at the battle of Hastings under the William the Conqueror - died abt 1075 somewhere in Normandy fighting under the Conqueror. --- Hugue de Macey - Fought at the battle of Hastings under the William the Conqueror - about 1100 in Essex England. --- Margaret De La Ferté Macé - married Ranulphus De Praers --- Guillaume(William)I de La Ferté Macé - Baron of Ferté Macé --- Hamon I De Mascy - 1st Baron of Massey and Lord of Description: Ascelie (Ashley Hall); Bogedone (Bowden) Church and Mill; Bramale (Bramhall); Doneham (Dunham Massey) Town; Hale, Hawk's Eyrie; Potitone (Puddington) Farm House and two Halls - supposed squire toone of his brothers at Hastings. William de La Ferté Macé was the only French noble family holding land within Normandy (A Norse-occupied territory of France, of which William the Conqueror was Duke). The Barons of Massey were fair and well respected in England, but their ancestors in France were a brutal family respected more for their violent disposition than their titles. Pedigree for William de La Ferté Macé (c. 1034-aft 1085), of which I can provide further info on request: Parents: William I (II) Talvas and Hildeburge D'Alençon, d/o Raoul III de Beaumont --- Grandparents: William I Talvace De Bellême and Mathilde De Ganelon (I haven't researched her yet) --- G-Grandparents: Yves I De Creil De Belesme and Gordeschilda "Godchilde" De Ponthieu, d/o Hilduin III de Ponthieu --- GG-(possible) Grandparents: Yves De Criel and Giele de Ponthieu. I hope this helps. Most of these folks have multiple variants for their name depending on whether they were recorded by an English, Norman or French Monk. Their names also changed based on titled lands: It was common to adopt the name of the manor or land you controlled as a 'surname'. Email me at ah64acrew(at)hotmail.com if you have questions, comments, or wish source references. _________________________________ Viscount William de la Ferté-Macé,1 2 3 4 son of William I Talvas, Lord of Bellême and Alençon and Hildegarde de Beaumont, was born in 1034 in Massey, England and died <1066> at age 32. Other names for William were William Lord of La Ferté-Macé, William Count de la Ferté-Macé, Viscount William de la Ferté Macé, William Ferte Massey, and William de la Ferté-Macé. Birth Notes: May have been born in Normandy. Death Notes: May have died at the Battle of Hastings. Research Notes: Fought in Battle of Hastings with wife's half brother, William the conqueror, his brothers-in-law, and his sons. Some sources list his sons as Hamon de Massey I, Robert de Massey and William de la Ferte Massey. Others list two legitimate sons, Baron Mathieu de la Ferte Mace and Hugue de Macey, plus Hamon as an illegitimate son." From a Post by Scott Denison 28 July 2008 in the Massey Family Genealogy Forum (Genealogy.com): William de La Ferté Macé was the only French noble family holding land within Normandy (A Norse-occupied territory of France, of which William the Conqueror was Duke). The Barons of Massey were fair and well respected in England, but their ancestors in France were a brutal family respected more for their violent disposition than their titles. William married Miss < > de Conteville, [stepmother of Hamon],5 daughter of Herluin de Conteville, Viscount of Conteville, Count of Crespon and Harlette de Falaise, in 1058 in Normandy, France. < was born from about 1037 to 1041 in Conteville, Normandy, France. Other names for < were Miss (Muriel?) de Conteville Burgh and Muriel de Montaigne. Research Notes: The "Miss de Conteville" in several sources may have been Muriel de Conteville. Per Wikipedia (Herluin de Conteville) one of Muriel's sisters could have been married to William, lord of La Ferte -Mace instead of Muriel. If Muriel, aka Muriel de Montaigne, Muriel de Conteville. More ancestry on Muriel may be available. Children from this marriage were: + 2 M i. Hamon de Massey, 1st Baron de Dunham 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 was born before 1056 in Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England and died in 1101 in Dunham, Lancaster, Lancashire, England. (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step) + 3 M ii. Baron Mathieu de la Ferté Macé 13 was born after 1058 and died about 1075 in Normandy, France. + 4 M iii. William de la Ferté-Macé, Baron of La Ferté-Macé 14 was born about 1059. (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step) + 5 M iv. Sir Hugue de Macey 14 died about 1100 in . + 6 F v. Margaret de la Ferté-Macé .14 _________________________________ DE MASSCEY/MASSEY ANCESTORS OF SIR WILLIAM DE BAGGELEGH 1034 -1278 My premise is that 'de mascey' and 'de baggelegh' are homonymic names (denoting the surname or used to signal that the person controls/owns that area, Ie de la ferte mace/de mascey/de baggelegh Meaning of Ferte Mace becomes the anglicized Mascey/Massey, Sir William De Baggelegh son-in-law of Hamon de Masscey VI 1. Viscount William de la Ferté-Macé,1 2 3 4 son of William I Talvas, Lord of Bellême and Alençon and Hildegarde de Beaumont, was born in 1034 in Massey, England and died <1066> at age 32. Other names for William were William Lord of La Ferté-Macé, William Count de la Ferté-Macé, Viscount William de la Ferté Macé, William Ferte Massey, and William de la Ferté-Macé. Birth Notes: May have been born in Normandy. Death Notes: May have died at the Battle of Hastings. Research Notes: Fought in Battle of Hastings with wife's half brother, William the conqueror, his brothers-in-law, and his sons. Some sources list his sons as Hamon de Massey I, Robert de Massey and William de la Ferte Massey. Others list two legitimate sons, Baron Mathieu de la Ferte Mace and Hugue de Macey, plus Hamon as an illegitimate son." William de La Ferté Macé was the only French noble family holding land within Normandy (A Norse-occupied territory of France, of which William the Conqueror was Duke). The Barons of Massey were fair and well respected in England, but their ancestors in France were a brutal family respected more for their violent disposition than their titles. William married Miss < > de Conteville, [stepmother of Hamon],5 daughter of Herluin de Conteville, Viscount of Conteville, Count of Crespon and Harlette de Falaise, in 1058 in Normandy, France. < was born from about 1037 to 1041 in Conteville, Normandy, France. Other names for < were Miss (Muriel?) de Conteville Burgh and Muriel de Montaigne. Research Notes: The "Miss de Conteville" in several sources may have been Muriel de Conteville. Per Wikipedia (Herluin de Conteville) one of Muriel's sisters could have been married to William, lord of La Ferte -Mace instead of Muriel. IfMuriel, aka Muriel de Montaigne, Muriel de Conteville. More ancestry on Muriel may be available. Children from this marriage were: + 2 M i. Hamon de Massey, 1st Baron de Dunham 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 was born before 1056 in Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England and died in 1101 in Dunham, Lancaster, Lancashire, England. (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step) + 3 M ii. Baron Mathieu de la Ferté Macé 13 was born after 1058 and died about 1075 in Normandy, France. + 4 M iii. William de la Ferté-Macé, Baron of La Ferté-Macé 14 was born about 1059. (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step) + 5 M iv. Sir Hugue de Macey 14 died about 1100 in . + 6 F v. Margaret de la Ferté-Macé .14....

Guillaume (Wiliam) de la Ferté-Macé Massey, Viscount Bellame, Count of Ferté-Macé MP
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 1035
La Ferte Mace, Orne, Normandy, France
Death: after 1076
Dunham Massey, Cheshire, England
Immediate Family:
Son of Guillaume II "Talvas" de Bellême, seigneur d'Alençon and Haberga "Hildeburge" de Beaumont
Husband of Muriel de Conteville
Father of Margaret de Praers (de Dewhall); Hamon de Mascy, 1st Baron of Dunham Massey; Mathieu de la Ferté-Macé; William de la Ferté-Macé, Baron of la Ferte-Mace; Robert de Massey and 2 others
Brother of Mabile, dame de Bellême et d'Alençon; Arnoul de Bellême and Adela de Belleme
Half brother of Olivier de Mesle
Added by: James Frederick Pultz on November 23, 2007
Managed by: Jackie "Wayne" Roberts Jr. and 42 others
Curated by: Anne M Berge

http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a31.htm

ID: I104303
Name: Count William ]<^>v] de Ferte-Mace
Sex: M
Birth: BET 1026 AND 1042 in Ferté-Mace, Aisne, Franc
Death: in aka De la Massey
Marriage 1 Muriel [@ <^>v] de Conteville b: 1030 in Normandie, France

* Married: ABT 1051 in Normandie, France
Children

1. Has Children Hamon [I @<^>] de Massey b: 1076 2. Has Children Margaret de [@ <^>v] la Ferte b: ABT 1059 in Falaise, Normandy, France
source: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=gilead07&id=I253485

William came from Normandy with the Invasion of William the Conqueror, to England in 1066.
(http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a31.htm#i3139)

http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a31.htm#i3139
http://www.ffish.com/family_tree/Descendants_William_de_la_Ferte_Mace/D1.htm

Birth Notes: May have been born in Normandy.

Death Notes: May have died at the Battle of Hastings.

Research Notes: Fought in Battle of Hastings with wife's half brother, William the conqueror, his brothers-in-law, and his sons. Some sources list his sons as Hamon de Massey I, Robert de Massey and William de la Ferte Massey. Others list two legitimate sons, Baron Mathieu de la Ferte Mace and Hugue de Macey, plus Hamon as an illegitimate son."

William de La Ferté Macé (c. 1034-aft 1085)
Born: La Ferté Macé, Normandy(Fort Mace)now in Alençon,Orne,France Living: 1085 Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England (in the Domesday book) Married: Miss de Conteville and/or Muriel de Conteville. Daughter of Harluin/Harlevin/Harlowen de Conteville and Harlette/Arlette de Falaise - the father-in-law and mother of William the Conqueror. --- Children: Mathieu de La Ferté Macé - Fought at the battle of Hastings under the William the Conqueror - died abt 1075 somewhere in Normandy fighting under the Conqueror. --- Hugue de Macey - Fought at the battle of Hastings under the William the Conqueror - about 1100 in Essex England. --- Margaret De La Ferté Macé - married Ranulphus De Praers --- Guillaume(William)I de La Ferté Macé - Baron of Ferté Macé --- Hamon I De Mascy - 1st Baron of Massey and Lord of Description: Ascelie (Ashley Hall); Bogedone (Bowden) Church and Mill; Bramale (Bramhall); Doneham (Dunham Massey) Town; Hale, Hawk's Eyrie; Potitone (Puddington) Farm House and two Halls - supposed squire toone of his brothers at Hastings. William de La Ferté Macé was the only French noble family holding land within Normandy (A Norse-occupied territory of France, of which William the Conqueror was Duke). The Barons of Massey were fair and well respected in England, but their ancestors in France were a brutal family respected more for their violent disposition than their titles. Pedigree for William de La Ferté Macé (c. 1034-aft 1085), of which I can provide further info on request: Parents: William I (II) Talvas and Hildeburge D'Alençon, d/o Raoul III de Beaumont --- Grandparents: William I Talvace De Bellême and Mathilde De Ganelon (I haven't researched her yet) --- G-Grandparents: Yves I De Creil De Belesme and Gordeschilda "Godchilde" De Ponthieu, d/o Hilduin III de Ponthieu --- GG-(possible) Grandparents: Yves De Criel and Giele de Ponthieu. I hope this helps. Most of these folks have multiple variants for their name depending on whether they were recorded by an English, Norman or French Monk. Their names also changed based on titled lands: It was common to adopt the name of the manor or land you controlled as a 'surname'. Email me at ah64acrew(at)hotmail.com if you have questions, comments, or wish source references.
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Viscount William de la Ferté-Macé,1 2 3 4 son of William I Talvas, Lord of Bellême and Alençon and Hildegarde de Beaumont, was born in 1034 in Massey, England and died <1066> at age 32. Other names for William were William Lord of La Ferté-Macé, William Count de la Ferté-Macé, Viscount William de la Ferté Macé, William Ferte Massey, and William de la Ferté-Macé.

Birth Notes: May have been born in Normandy.

Death Notes: May have died at the Battle of Hastings.

Research Notes: Fought in Battle of Hastings with wife's half brother, William the conqueror, his brothers-in-law, and his sons. Some sources list his sons as Hamon de Massey I, Robert de Massey and William de la Ferte Massey. Others list two legitimate sons, Baron Mathieu de la Ferte Mace and Hugue de Macey, plus Hamon as an illegitimate son."

From a Post by Scott Denison 28 July 2008 in the Massey Family Genealogy Forum (Genealogy.com): William de La Ferté Macé was the only French noble family holding land within Normandy (A Norse-occupied territory of France, of which William the Conqueror was Duke). The Barons of Massey were fair and well respected in England, but their ancestors in France were a brutal family respected more for their violent disposition than their titles.

William married Miss < > de Conteville, [stepmother of Hamon],5 daughter of Herluin de Conteville, Viscount of Conteville, Count of Crespon and Harlette de Falaise, in 1058 in Normandy, France. < was born from about 1037 to 1041 in Conteville, Normandy, France. Other names for < were Miss (Muriel?) de Conteville Burgh and Muriel de Montaigne.

Research Notes: The "Miss de Conteville" in several sources may have been Muriel de Conteville.

Per Wikipedia (Herluin de Conteville) one of Muriel's sisters could have been married to William, lord of La Ferte -Mace instead of Muriel. If Muriel, aka Muriel de Montaigne, Muriel de Conteville. More ancestry on Muriel may be available.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 2 M i. Hamon de Massey, 1st Baron de Dunham 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 was born before 1056 in Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England and died in 1101 in Dunham, Lancaster, Lancashire, England. (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step)

+ 3 M ii. Baron Mathieu de la Ferté Macé 13 was born after 1058 and died about 1075 in Normandy, France.

+ 4 M iii. William de la Ferté-Macé, Baron of La Ferté-Macé 14 was born about 1059. (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step)

+ 5 M iv. Sir Hugue de Macey 14 died about 1100 in .

+ 6 F v. Margaret de la Ferté-Macé .14

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DE MASSCEY/MASSEY ANCESTORS OF SIR WILLIAM DE BAGGELEGH

1034 -1278 My premise is that 'de mascey' and 'de baggelegh' are homonymic names (denoting the surname or used to signal that the person controls/owns that area,
Ie de la ferte mace/de mascey/de baggelegh Meaning of Ferte Mace becomes the anglicized Mascey/Massey, Sir William De Baggelegh son-in-law of Hamon de Masscey VI 1. Viscount William de la Ferté-Macé,1 2 3 4 son of William I Talvas, Lord of Bellême and Alençon and Hildegarde de Beaumont, was born in 1034 in Massey, England and died <1066> at age 32. Other names for William were William Lord of La Ferté-Macé, William Count de la Ferté-Macé, Viscount William de la Ferté Macé, William Ferte Massey, and William de la Ferté-Macé. Birth Notes: May have been born in Normandy.
Death Notes: May have died at the Battle of Hastings.
Research Notes: Fought in Battle of Hastings with wife's half brother, William the conqueror, his brothers-in-law, and his sons. Some sources list his sons as Hamon de Massey I, Robert de Massey and William de la Ferte Massey. Others list two legitimate sons, Baron Mathieu de la Ferte Mace and Hugue de Macey, plus Hamon as an illegitimate son." William de La Ferté Macé was the only French noble family holding land within Normandy (A Norse-occupied territory of France, of which William the Conqueror was Duke). The Barons of Massey were fair and well respected in England, but their ancestors in France were a brutal family respected more for their violent disposition than their titles. William married Miss < > de Conteville, [stepmother of Hamon],5 daughter of Herluin de Conteville, Viscount of Conteville, Count of Crespon and Harlette de Falaise, in 1058 in Normandy, France. < was born from about 1037 to 1041 in Conteville, Normandy, France. Other names for < were Miss (Muriel?) de Conteville Burgh and Muriel de Montaigne. Research Notes: The "Miss de Conteville" in several sources may have been Muriel de Conteville. Per Wikipedia (Herluin de Conteville) one of Muriel's sisters could have been married to William, lord of La Ferte -Mace instead of Muriel. IfMuriel, aka Muriel de Montaigne, Muriel de Conteville. More ancestry on Muriel may be available.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 2 M i. Hamon de Massey, 1st Baron de Dunham 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 was born before 1056 in Dunham Massey, Bucklow, Cheshire, England and died in 1101 in Dunham, Lancaster, Lancashire, England. (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step)
+ 3 M ii. Baron Mathieu de la Ferté Macé 13 was born after 1058 and died about 1075 in Normandy, France.
+ 4 M iii. William de la Ferté-Macé, Baron of La Ferté-Macé 14 was born about 1059. (Relationship to Father: Biological, Relationship to Mother: Step)
+ 5 M iv. Sir Hugue de Macey 14 died about 1100 in .
+ 6 F v. Margaret de la Ferté-Macé .14....