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Source: The Rie family in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#_Toc21095955 [See document in the Memories section]

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Titre The Rie family in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#_Toc21095955 [See document in the Memories section]

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EUDES de Rie (-1 Mar 1120, bur Colchester). His parentage is confirmed by the History of the foundation of St John’s abbey, Colchester which names “Eudoni…major domus regiæ”, “pater…eius…Hubertus de Ria, qui internuntius et sequester inter ducem Normanniæ et regem Angliæ…”, his three brothers “Radulfus...custodia castelli et comitatus Notingehamiæ, Hubertus…turris Norwici…Adam…in Cantia”, and “Roasya uxor eius…Gilbertum comes, Rohaisæ frater”[581]. "…Eudo dapifer" witnessed the charter dated to [1072] under which William I King of England summoned knights to attend Easter at Clarendon[582]. "…Eudo de Ria fitz Hubert…Engelramn fitz Hubert [=Hilbert]…" witnessed the charter dated 14 Jul 1080 under which William I King of England confirmed the foundation of the abbey of Lessay[583]. The Chronicon Rameseiensis records the donations made by "Eudo…dapifer Regis…sororis suæ Muriellæ" dated to [1080], witnessed by "…Radulfo fratre Ilgeri, Rogero vicecomite et Osberno sororio Eudonis et Walgero filio eius…"[584]. "…Eudo, Adam brother of Eudo…Richard de Meri, Geoffrey de Sai, Robert de Oilli" witnessed the charter dated 1084 under which William I King of England confirmed a donation by Roger de Albini to Lessay Holy Trinity[585]. Domesday Book records “Eudo fitzHubert” holding Ashe in Overton Hundred in Hampshire; St Leonards in Ripplesmere Hundred in Berkshire; "Eudo the Steward" holding numerous properties in Essex, in Norfolk and in Suffolk[586]. "…Eudo dapifer, Ivo dapifer, Hanno dapifer…" witnessed the charter dated 27 Jan 1091 under which William II King of England confirmed the status of Bath abbey[587]. King William II’s grant of "manerio Deremanni quod Lefstanus frater eius habebat" to “Eudonem dapiferum meum” in an undated charter[588], dated by the Regesta Regum Anglo-Normannorum to [1093/97][589]. "Eudo dapifer" donated "the whole tithe of the forest of Tison...[and rights] in all his honour of Préaux [Pratellis]" to Saint-Amand by undated charter[590]. “Eudo dapifer domini regis” founded Colchester St John, for the souls of King Henry I, Queen Matilda “...uxore mea Roaysia”, by undated charter[591]. The History of the foundation of St John’s abbey, Colchester records the death “pridie Kal Mar 1120” of “Eudoni…major domus regiæ”, and that “Waltherius eius nepos” brought his body for burial[592]. m ROHESE, daughter of RICHARD FitzGilbert de Brionne & his wife Rohese Giffard (-7 Jan 1121, bur Le Bec, Normandy[593]). “Eudo dapifer domini regis” founded Colchester St John, for the souls of KingHenry I, Queen Matilda “...uxore mea Roaysia”, by undated charter[594]. Her parentage is confirmed by the undated charter under which “Rohais uxor Eudonis dapiferi” donated “manerium de Halingberi sicut dominus meus Eudo die qua vivus et mortuus fuit illud habebat” and land which “Gelebertus frater meus” gave her, for the souls of “Eudonis dapiferi mariti mei et Gilberti fratris mei”[595], which is corroborated by the undated charter under which “Walterus filius Roberti” donated “terram de teia” to Colchester St. John, for the souls of “patris mei Roberti filii Ricardi et matris mee Matildis et...Rohaise amite mee que ecclesiam Sancti Johannis fundavit et fratrum suorum”, to Colchester St. John[596]. The History of the foundation of St John’s abbey, Colchester also names “Eudoni…major domus regiæ” and “Roasya uxor eius…Gilbertum comes, Rohaisæ frater”[597]. Other sources suggest a different parentage for Rohese. According to Guillaume de Jumièges and the Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, she was Rohese, widow of Richard FitzGilbert de Brionne, daughter of Gauthier Giffard & his wife Ermengarde (-after 1113, bur [Colchester]). Guillaume de Jumièges names "Galterium Giffardum primum” as father of “secundum Galterium Giffardum et filias plures” of whom “una...Rohais” married “Richardo filio comitis Gisleberti”[598]. According to the Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, ”Rohesia” married secondly “Eudoni dapifero Regis Normanniæ” after the death of “Ricardo filio comitis Gisleberti” and that they were both buried “tempore Henrici primi” in “castrum Clecestriæ…cœnobio in honore sancti Johannis” which Eudo constructed[599]. The Complete Peerage says that this parentage is “probably erroneous”[600]. From a chronological point ofview, the connection would be tight, assuming that the death date of Richard FitzGilbert is correctly estimated to [1090] and the birth of Rohese’s granddaughter by her alleged second marriage, Beatrix, is correctly assessed at [1105]. This supposed different parentage is disproved by the three sources quoted above. Eudes & his wife had [one possible child]:
i) MARGUERITE ([1080/90]-). The Genealogia Fundatoris of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names “Margareta” as daughter of “Eudoni dapifero Regis Normanniæ” and “Rohesia”, adding that she married “Willielmo de Mandavill” by whom she was mother of “Gaufridi filii comitis Essexiæ et iure matris Normanniæ dapifer”[601]. According to the Complete Peerage, this genealogy is “probably erroneous” but it does not explain the basis for the doubts[602]. Marguerite’s second marriage is suggested by the charter dated [1141/42] under which Empress Matilda made various grants of property including a grant to "Willelmo filio Otuel fratri…Comitis Gaufredi"[603]. The only Ottiwell has been identified was the illegitimate son of Hugh Earl of Chester. m firstly ([1100/05]) WILLIAM de Mandeville, son of GEOFFREY de Mandeville & his first wife Adelisia --- (-[1116]). m secondly ([1116/19]) OTTIWELL, [maybe OTTIWELL FitzHugh, illegitimate son of HUGH Earl of Chester & his mistress ---] (-drowned off Barfleur, Normandy 25 Nov 1120).