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Source: Ancient Wales Studies - Men of the North

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Titre	Ancient Wales Studies - Men of the North

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Darrell Wolcott, Ancient Wales Studies, id129

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10 - Men of the North [M]orcant Coledauc Morcant bulc Cincar braut Bran hen dugual moilmut Garbaniaun Coyl hen Guote p auc Tecmant Teuhant Telpuil Urb an Grat Iumetel Ritigirn Oudecant Outigir Ebiud Eudos Eudeleu Aballac Beli et Anna Narrative form: Morgan (550) ap Clydog (520) ap Morgan Bwlch (490) ap Cyngar (455) brother of Bran Hen (450) ap Dyfnwal Moelmud (420) ap Garbanian (385) ap Coel Hen Gutepac (340) ap Tecfan (310) ap Deheuwaint (280) ap Telpwll (250) ap Urban (215) ap Gradd (185) ap Rhifedel (155) ap Rydeyrn (120) ap Eudigant (90) ap Eudeyrn (60) ap Eneid (25) ap Eudos (5 BC) ap Euddolen (35 BC) ap Afallach (70 BC) [ap Afleth (100 BC)] ap Beli Mawr (130 BC) COMMENTS: [a] When we insert Afleth as the father of Afallach (from Hengwrt Ms 33), this is a cousin line to the family in Pedigree #1 above; Eudollen ap Afallach was a brother of Owain ap Afallach. [b] The scribe who inserted "maps" in front of the names got carried away when he found Coel Hen's epithet "Goutepauc" on the line beneath him, and made this two men "Coel Hen map Goutepauc" [c] The Rydeyrn ap Eudigant in this pedigree had a brother Deheuwaint who was the ancestor of Cadell Ddrynllwg (380) ap Cadeyrn (350) ap Pasgen (315) ap Brydw (285) ap Rhuddfedel Frych (250) ap Cadeyrn (220) ap Gwrtheyrn (185) ap Rydeyrn (155) ap Deheuwaint (125) ap Eudigant (90). Many have tried to identify the Gwrtheyrn in Cadell's pedigree as the Gwrtheyrn ap Gwydol who was better known as Vortigern. Born 200 years later, Vortigern named sons Cadeyrn, Pasgen and Brydw but those were common male namesand certainly not the same men found in Cadell's pedigree. [d] One suspects that Bran Hen ap Dyfnwal Moelmud was a man of importance since he appears in the pedigree although the subsequent family is that of his brother, Cyngar. Perhaps he had no sons himself, or no descendants of note. [e] We previously commented on the wife, Anna, assigned to Beli Mawr. But perhaps his wife WAS named Anna, just not the one described in Pedigree #1.

10 - Men of the North

[M]orcant
Coledauc
Morcant bulc
Cincar braut
Bran hen
dugual moilmut
Garbaniaun
Coyl hen
Guote p auc
Tecmant
Teuhant
Telpuil
Urb an
Grat
Iumetel
Ritigirn
Oudecant
Outigir
Ebiud
Eudos
Eudeleu
Aballac
Beli et Anna

Narrative form:

Morgan (550) ap Clydog (520) ap Morgan Bwlch (490) ap Cyngar (455) brother of Bran Hen (450) ap Dyfnwal Moelmud (420) ap Garbanian (385) ap Coel Hen Gutepac (340) ap Tecfan (310) ap Deheuwaint (280) ap Telpwll (250) ap Urban (215) ap Gradd (185) ap Rhifedel (155) ap Rydeyrn (120) ap Eudigant (90) ap Eudeyrn (60) ap Eneid (25) ap Eudos (5 BC) ap Euddolen (35 BC) ap Afallach (70 BC) [ap Afleth (100 BC)] ap Beli Mawr (130 BC)

COMMENTS:
[a] When we insert Afleth as the father of Afallach (from Hengwrt Ms 33), this is a cousin line to the family in Pedigree #1 above; Eudollen ap Afallach was a brother of Owain ap Afallach.
[b] The scribe who inserted "maps" in front of the names got carried away when he found Coel Hen's epithet "Goutepauc" on the line beneath him, and made this two men "Coel Hen map Goutepauc"
[c] The Rydeyrn ap Eudigant in this pedigree had a brother Deheuwaint who was the ancestor of Cadell Ddrynllwg (380) ap Cadeyrn (350) ap Pasgen (315) ap Brydw (285) ap Rhuddfedel Frych (250) ap Cadeyrn (220) ap Gwrtheyrn (185) ap Rydeyrn (155) ap Deheuwaint (125) ap Eudigant (90). Many have tried to identify the Gwrtheyrn in Cadell's pedigree as the Gwrtheyrn ap Gwydol who was better known as Vortigern. Born 200 years later, Vortigern named sons Cadeyrn, Pasgen and Brydw but those were common male namesand certainly not the same men found in Cadell's pedigree.
[d] One suspects that Bran Hen ap Dyfnwal Moelmud was a man of importance since he appears in the pedigree although the subsequent family is that of his brother, Cyngar. Perhaps he had no sons himself, or no descendants of note.
[e] We previously commented on the wife, Anna, assigned to Beli Mawr. But perhaps his wife WAS named Anna, just not the one described in Pedigree #1.